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Local Talent
10-15-2009, 07:43 PM
Have you ever given much thought to whether your personal ride was EP-appropriate?
If you think I'm going too far, and that one's car choice is irrelevant and private, please consider that the job already affects our choices when it comes to wardrobe, weapons, gear, grooming, hairstyle, and so much more.
Then there's those questions:

1. Can your car win a fight?
If memory serves, mine has been used to transport VIPs (a client's kid to school, another client's friend to a hotel), escort other vehicles (movers transporting art works), transport valuables (usually jewelry to various film/fashion shoots or stores), work surveillance jobs, take part in training exercises (motorcade drills), and I must forget some.

In a perfect world, I should have been insured for all that, and would register the vehicle under my co. name if I were running my own show. In an even better world, the company or client would have provided the vehicles (it's usually the case). But in reality, it often comes to: do you want the job or not? Witness the number of guard outfits that'll have you patrol their sector in your own car...
Hard to say no to a client when in a bind, too.

So... what if I had come under attack while working those assignments? We all know that armed or not, your car is your best weapon, right?
Is yours strong and powerful enough to run someone off the road, or hit another car and keep going?
Can you lose a tail? The paparazzi?

2. Is it "presentable"?
I've mentioned the guy who showed up for an interview with a Republican with "Vote Hillary!" bumper-stickers on his ride... There was also the one who came to the same account in a beat-up Toyota whose rear-view mirror was taped so it wouldn't fall off.
How seriously do you think a millionaire (billionaire in the above cases) will take you if you drive onto their estate in a junker or other oddball car?
It's not about showing off in luxury cars to impress clients (seen it). It's about projecting an image of success and, especially, seriousness (yes, partly stolen shamelessly from American Beauty!).

Also, see #1 for potential VIP transport: you need a reasonably comfortable and clean car to avoid embarrassment. If you take TFTT's VIP Protection course (a rush and a steal, BTW), you'll probably get to hear Max Joseph's hilarious story about having to transport a rich (is there any other kind?) client in an old beat-up range pick-up full of ammo: the man was in shock...

3. Is it low-profile?
An agent I know (otherwise a great guy, mind you) drives a bright yellow Dodge Charger Daytona. A part of me envies him (the part that's going through a mid-life crisis): this is one cool car!
But what if he takes a surveillance job? What if he is followed to/from a high-risk client's location one day? What if a celeb client decides to jump in his ride to fool the paps? That's a hell of an easy mark in traffic...

4. Is it roomy and comfortable?
On a lot of jobs, my car became my main post and/or field command center. Whether spending the night in it watching a subject's house or a client's estate (yes, sometimes you protect them from their driveway or across the street), or simply in need of a spot to relax and eat, it has felt like the thing was my second home more than once.
Imagine yourself spending 8 to 12 hours all geared up (radio, weapons, batbelt, armor) sitting in a sporty subcompact with rock-hard bucket seats... Imagine having to cram a client in the back of your coupe...

And do you have enough room in the trunk, glove compartment, center console, door pockets, etc. for all your gear? I operate in L.A., so between the risk of a natural disaster and that of "civil unrest", my car is "loaded". Ever wondered why cops prefer large sedans or SUVs to sporty cars (no, I don't envision myself taking and transporting prisoners, but I need room for gear, ammo, cases, food, etc.)?

5. Does it convey the right image?
I've known a guy to drive a Prius (actually, that's up to THREE, now) and another a VW Beetle. Clean cars, too. But before you even get a chance to establish your reputation as a serious professional, why give the impression (to clients, the public, or fellow agents) right off the bat that you're in the wrong line of work? These rides fail miserably at #1 and #4, anyway, but I really think that they send the wrong message by not passing the macho test. :D I think these guys try to appeal to the Hollyweird crowd as a lot of their clients are entertainers, but it's misguided, I think.

So... after doing this job for so long, I've "become the job" and drive a large domestic vehicle in the most common color in the country. It's a sleeper.
But what do you guys think? Let me know by refuting the above, adding your comments, and voting. Cars can be a touchy subject, especially for men, so if I hit a nerve let me have it! :)

ETA: changed cars since this post. Now behind the wheel of... a large (and even more powerful) domestic sedan, still in the most common color in the US. :)

Local Talent
11-18-2009, 11:15 AM
I've had an eye on Dodge for a while, for example. I'm talking about the full-size models that are fast, cheap, strong, and built on a MBZ chassis.
The Challenger is sexy, but the Charger is a sedan (better for transport), lower profile (they sell a boatload of those), AND is used by police. This can be a plus for certain gigs and means a lot of available duty aftermarket accessories (think trunk organizer, for ex., NOT wig-wags and other PD-wannabe gadgets!).
The G-man look may work against you if you do a lot of surveillance work, however.

Crown Vics (unfortunately no longer sold to the public)/Grand Marquis and most SUVs are other good choices.
A successful bodyguard could also turn to Cadillac, MBZ, or BMW (again, large sedans or SUVs) for conservative, strong, fast rides that present well.

As a general rule, I think that it's hard to go wrong with vehicles used by govt agencies. Just like their weapons, they'll be at least serviceable and appropriate for the job, even if more research or money (or personal preference) can lead you to different choices.

Talking about personal preference, and like a lot of old-timers, I won't touch front-wheel drives, so that leaves out some decent mid-sized options (Impala?). I just can't handle steering wheel torque (imagine yourself driving at speed with a phone or gun in one hand) or their behavior close to the limit. I also believe them to be more easily disabled by a collision.

Thoughts? Rebuttals?

Lone Wolf
11-19-2009, 03:44 PM
Man LT we have Crown Vic's by the boat loads out here in Fl right now.. Why cant you get them there?

As far as agreeing or disagreeing with you.. Me personally I use a Mercedes Benz C 280 Its fast had mine up to 125 on the highway here.. reliable, comfortable, affordable, pretty good gas mileage as well.. Works well in most surveillance situations.. No one expects a Mercedes as a surveillance vehicle at least here anyway..

It corners well and most of all I got it cheap.. For under 3K...

Local Talent
11-19-2009, 10:20 PM
The Crown Vic was removed from the catalog a while back (2 years?). It's still sold as a fleet model to LEAs and other large companies I think, but not to the public.
Its cousin the Mercury Grand Marquis is however still available (and it's a bargain).

Of course, there's a few (a few - it's not that popular here. FL has a large senior population, and that might explain a better success in that state) on the used market, and also retired PD cars at auctions, but I was talking new.

As for your ride, it sounds perfect: classy, not too flashy, fast and strong, RWD, and with a good image. I'm personally into larger vehicles, but we're talking simple preference there - no disagreement at all.
I drove a little MBZ once (a 230 I think) and it was very fast and nimble, no doubt.
And at $3K, you stole it, man! :thumbs:

Lone Wolf
11-20-2009, 04:23 PM
I got a smoking deal on it... It is my first MB ever.. MAN AM I SPOILED NOW... I dont like driving anything else... When I bought it in Jan or 09 it had 108K it now has 133K and still going strong.. Of course a MB is one of those cars that isnt even really broken in until it gets to about 200K... Love this car for sure.. Now with that said.. One of the companies that I do work with is moving me into the Director of Operations position and going to provide me with a vehicle... Guess which one.. YEAH.. A nice Crown Vic.. (USED OF COURSE) but hey they are going to have it painted for me and every thing.. So Im going ultra shiek here and having it painted GLOSSY JET BLACK with Llimo Tint Windows.. (here in FL you can have Limo tint IF YOU HAVE A DR NOTE OR ARE A PI). Well I dont have a Dr note.. So.. Nuff of that..

I guess I will have to wait and see what they do as far as the vehicle goes... I dont want to push the issue but hey anything I dont have to pay for is a good thing...

Local Talent
11-20-2009, 10:07 PM
Guy I know was issued a similar Grand Marquis that he takes home. If your Ford is used, it's very likely a former LE car with the police package (sweet). Hopefully not a cruiser cause those can be funky.
I like domestic cars, but a Vicky ain't no Benz for build quality or handling... Nice car, though.

Lone Wolf
11-25-2009, 05:19 PM
A Vicky ain't no Benz for build quality or handling... Nice car, though.

There isnt anything like a Benz.. Plain and simple.. Ive driven Bentleys, Ferrari's, Astin Martins and other various high speed great handling type vehicles... Nothing compares to the BENZ