Geo
07-15-2010, 12:03 PM
Does anyone out there ever carry a back-up or is against it. Thinks it dumb etc. Read this article regarding snub nose guns thought it had some valid points. All the best. Geo Also keep cool cause southern cal is a scorcher...
Finding Snub Stocks That Fit Your Hand
One thing that distinguishes snubs and revolvers from autoloaders is that a variety of stocks differing widely in size, shape, and material can be fit to them. This can be either an advantage or a disadvantage. If they fit you well, they can really enhance your shooting. If they fit you poorly, you aren’t going to shoot to your full potential. To distinguish between the physical act of holding the gun—which most of us refer to as grip—and the wood, rubber, or plastic pieces encasing the frame of the weapon, I will refer to the latter as stocks, although they’re also commonly called grips.
There are three important functional components of stocks.
Trigger reach
Support hand on the gun
Surface friction
Each has an effect on how well you can shoot your revolver. Aesthetic components are also important to some people, but aesthetics should be kept in their place.
Trigger Reach
Trigger reach is the distance the finger has to travel from the backstrap of the gun or stocks to the face of the trigger. It is the component that controls how well we can smoothly work the trigger straight to the rear. This isn’t necessarily a linear number that can be measured with a ruler, although it can be determined with a tape measure. It’s not linear because the thickness of the stocks can have an effect on it. This is an important component because it determines where on the finger the trigger makes contact when the snub is acquired quickly. What we ideally want is for the first joint of the finger to make contact with the trigger, either on the face or the edge of the face on the firing hand side. This placement allows us to move the trigger smoothly back in a straight line. If too much of the finger enters the trigger guard, there is a tendency to push the revolver to the opposite side. If not enough of the finger enters the trigger guard, the finger has a hard time developing enough leverage to move the trigger back smoothly, and the result is a jerk that is difficult to control.
Here's an example of proper trigger reach.
Too much trigger reach.
Excess trigger reach results in too much finger entering the trigger guard. This makes you look like a Hollywood actor and can cause shots to be thrown to the support side.
Too much finger in the trigger guard.
Index marks comparing the two.
While the difference between the two marks might not seem like much, remember we are using a shooting instrument that is particularly unforgiving of mistakes in technique. Too much finger on the trigger can be managed, but you have to be aware of the issue and consciously make sure that you’re not pushing the gun.
Support Hand on the Gun
The amount of support hand on the gun is the component that determines how quickly we can fire multiple shots with our snub. We keep the gun from squirming in our hand when firing by creating a frictional lock between the gun and our hands. With a small revolver, two subcomponents contribute to this. First, the amount of your hands that physically makes contact with the gun, and second, a certain amount of camming action by the fleshy part of the support hand below the thumb against the fingertips of the firing hand. Both of these subcomponents are controlled by the distance between the fingertips of the firing hand and the fleshy part of the hand below the firing thumb.
Larger Grip
Here's a stock I can control well.
Let's put a number on it. Over ¾" open space.
Smaller Grip
Here's a smaller stock.
This open space measures a little over ¼”.
Why is that important? Let’s look at the base of my left thumb. Let's say it's 1" wide.
Base of left thumb. 1" wide.
To achieve a frictional lock on the stocks of the gun, the base of the support thumb has to enter the opening between the firing thumb and fingertips. If the thumb doesn't go in the opening, instead of the support hand having a frictional lock on the stocks, what you have to lock your support hand in place is whatever friction you can create against the fingernails of the firing hand. That's not much. True, some of that thumb will squeeze into a smaller opening, but at some point it becomes a square peg/round hole situation. That is what’s happening when you see people shooting a snub and they have to regrip the gun after every shot. Even with +P .38s, if the stocks fit you, you shouldn’t need to regrip after every shot.
In some cases, you have to make compromises between the optimal size of the stocks for shooting and the optimal size for concealment. In many cases, the proper size stocks will be less than optimal for pocket or ankle carry. In most cases, the tradeoff is better achieved by using a shorter stock than by going to a shorter trigger reach. The little finger doesn’t contribute as much to a proper grip as making enough contact with the support hand does.
Surface Material Friction
To create a frictional lock on the gun to control it, you need, well, friction. Unless you walk around with rosin on your hands all day, it’s hard to create friction on smooth-surfaced stocks. Nice, smooth wood stocks look pretty. However, it’s really hard to shoot the gun fast with stocks that let the gun slip around in your hands like a live frog.
Smooth stocks.
Nothing wrong with having smooth stocks on your barbecue gun, but for a serious carry gun they’re out of place. If you’re committed to having something aesthetically pleasing on your gun, you can spray the stocks with clear spray grit. It works very well and still lets the pretty wood show through.
Finding stocks that fit your hands takes a bit of time and effort. There’s also a good probability that what fits someone else will not fit you. In the end, shooting a five-shot group with a timer will probably tell you what works
Finding Snub Stocks That Fit Your Hand
One thing that distinguishes snubs and revolvers from autoloaders is that a variety of stocks differing widely in size, shape, and material can be fit to them. This can be either an advantage or a disadvantage. If they fit you well, they can really enhance your shooting. If they fit you poorly, you aren’t going to shoot to your full potential. To distinguish between the physical act of holding the gun—which most of us refer to as grip—and the wood, rubber, or plastic pieces encasing the frame of the weapon, I will refer to the latter as stocks, although they’re also commonly called grips.
There are three important functional components of stocks.
Trigger reach
Support hand on the gun
Surface friction
Each has an effect on how well you can shoot your revolver. Aesthetic components are also important to some people, but aesthetics should be kept in their place.
Trigger Reach
Trigger reach is the distance the finger has to travel from the backstrap of the gun or stocks to the face of the trigger. It is the component that controls how well we can smoothly work the trigger straight to the rear. This isn’t necessarily a linear number that can be measured with a ruler, although it can be determined with a tape measure. It’s not linear because the thickness of the stocks can have an effect on it. This is an important component because it determines where on the finger the trigger makes contact when the snub is acquired quickly. What we ideally want is for the first joint of the finger to make contact with the trigger, either on the face or the edge of the face on the firing hand side. This placement allows us to move the trigger smoothly back in a straight line. If too much of the finger enters the trigger guard, there is a tendency to push the revolver to the opposite side. If not enough of the finger enters the trigger guard, the finger has a hard time developing enough leverage to move the trigger back smoothly, and the result is a jerk that is difficult to control.
Here's an example of proper trigger reach.
Too much trigger reach.
Excess trigger reach results in too much finger entering the trigger guard. This makes you look like a Hollywood actor and can cause shots to be thrown to the support side.
Too much finger in the trigger guard.
Index marks comparing the two.
While the difference between the two marks might not seem like much, remember we are using a shooting instrument that is particularly unforgiving of mistakes in technique. Too much finger on the trigger can be managed, but you have to be aware of the issue and consciously make sure that you’re not pushing the gun.
Support Hand on the Gun
The amount of support hand on the gun is the component that determines how quickly we can fire multiple shots with our snub. We keep the gun from squirming in our hand when firing by creating a frictional lock between the gun and our hands. With a small revolver, two subcomponents contribute to this. First, the amount of your hands that physically makes contact with the gun, and second, a certain amount of camming action by the fleshy part of the support hand below the thumb against the fingertips of the firing hand. Both of these subcomponents are controlled by the distance between the fingertips of the firing hand and the fleshy part of the hand below the firing thumb.
Larger Grip
Here's a stock I can control well.
Let's put a number on it. Over ¾" open space.
Smaller Grip
Here's a smaller stock.
This open space measures a little over ¼”.
Why is that important? Let’s look at the base of my left thumb. Let's say it's 1" wide.
Base of left thumb. 1" wide.
To achieve a frictional lock on the stocks of the gun, the base of the support thumb has to enter the opening between the firing thumb and fingertips. If the thumb doesn't go in the opening, instead of the support hand having a frictional lock on the stocks, what you have to lock your support hand in place is whatever friction you can create against the fingernails of the firing hand. That's not much. True, some of that thumb will squeeze into a smaller opening, but at some point it becomes a square peg/round hole situation. That is what’s happening when you see people shooting a snub and they have to regrip the gun after every shot. Even with +P .38s, if the stocks fit you, you shouldn’t need to regrip after every shot.
In some cases, you have to make compromises between the optimal size of the stocks for shooting and the optimal size for concealment. In many cases, the proper size stocks will be less than optimal for pocket or ankle carry. In most cases, the tradeoff is better achieved by using a shorter stock than by going to a shorter trigger reach. The little finger doesn’t contribute as much to a proper grip as making enough contact with the support hand does.
Surface Material Friction
To create a frictional lock on the gun to control it, you need, well, friction. Unless you walk around with rosin on your hands all day, it’s hard to create friction on smooth-surfaced stocks. Nice, smooth wood stocks look pretty. However, it’s really hard to shoot the gun fast with stocks that let the gun slip around in your hands like a live frog.
Smooth stocks.
Nothing wrong with having smooth stocks on your barbecue gun, but for a serious carry gun they’re out of place. If you’re committed to having something aesthetically pleasing on your gun, you can spray the stocks with clear spray grit. It works very well and still lets the pretty wood show through.
Finding stocks that fit your hands takes a bit of time and effort. There’s also a good probability that what fits someone else will not fit you. In the end, shooting a five-shot group with a timer will probably tell you what works